All our national mental health hotlines (including 988) accessed
through our schools, recommend kids to the Trevor Project.
The Trevor Project is a suicide prevention hotline for LGBTQ+ students. This means if students say they are unsure of their gender, after reading books in school (see here & here) that say there are many gender choices based on their feelings, then they are referred to LGBTQ+ "resources". The Q in LGBTQ means Queer or QUESTIONING. Once a child becomes confused about all these genders, they are now a Q, because the "confusion" means they are "Questioning".
Some schools even provide these Trevor Project Hotline numbers on the walls of schools and/or in student bathrooms (Grades K-12), like my school district in Orange County, California.
Schools refer kids to Trevor Space to "explore" their gender or sexuality on-line with unvetted random adults internationally without parent knowledge or consent.
Inside Trevor Space are many chat clubs kids can join. Here are samples of some.
Witchcraft Club, Furries Club (pretend you're an animal), Chosen Family Club, Gay Men's Club with the motto: Let's talk about boys!, Regression Club (where an adult man can "identify" as a 6 year old girl or babies), Nonbinary Pals Club, Autism LGBTQ+ Club, Roommates Club, etc...
You might ask, "How do you know this?" Because as an adult in my 50’s, I put my DOB as a 13 year old to check it out. It was super easy to do, no questions asked. I went in and took screen shots of these clubs and noticed many conversations that said, "I'm lonely and need a friend!" and a random stranger would reply, "I'll be your friend!" You don't have to be a detective to see the Red Flags that this can be a sticky web for sexual predators.
Worst of all, when I checked out the Crisis Text Hotline by texting HEARME to 839863, the counselor said I could share my phone number with people in Trevor Chat Space after I "build trust". I was advised that Trevor Space is a good place to "meet friends". The text counselor even gave me the green light to lie about my age if I was not 13 yet and assured me that everything is confidential and that my parents don't have to know about my chats. I am attaching the text conversation below where I posed as a confused prepubescent teen.
Crisis Text Conversation on Wed, April 13, 2022
Text HEARME to 839863 (OC Crisis Prevention Hotline)
HEAR ME
Crisis Counselor (CC): Thank you for contacting CrisisText. A crisis counselor will be with you as soon as possible. (Opt out at anytime by texting STOP)
Hi, how may I help you?
Me: I’m not sure of my gender and I’m scared about puberty cuz if I go thru puberty I’m gonna be stuck and I don’t know wut to do.
CC: That can certainly be confusing. How old are you?
Me: I don’t want to say but my older sister said I’m getting close to it that I could be a year away but not one knows when it’s gonna happen and I don’t want to have periods like my sister who gets really bad cramps and gets in bad moods.
CC: I think a more useful resource for you is: Trevorproject.org There is a text line there too. The Trevor Project is to help young people who are questioning their sexuality and/or gender
Me: Yea my sister told me about that. She’s in clubs in Trevor Space and told me to join cuz she makes a lot of friends there.
CC: I think they can help you more than I am able to, they are trained specifically to help situations like yours.
Me: Is it a place where I can make friends cuz I have a hard time making friends and that’s another reason I’m not sure what gender I should be. Ive been reading books about it.
CC: (Counselor sent me 4 links for Trevor Project – but I can’t access the documents aren’t showing up on my phone anymore as of 5-4-2022… I didn’t think to save the links)
CC: The same website, TheTrevorProject.org has a place to meet friends.
Me: Oh great thanks so much! She told me about the Furries club where you pretend to be a cat or dog. And the Gaymen Club where they talk about boys and the witchcraft club. If I’m not 13 yet, can I just lie about my age and get in so I can meet new friends in a safe place?
CC: That’s up tp you. The site is well worth exploring and you should text them to open a conversation about your gender decision.
Me: Good but I don’t want my parent to know about it – will they tell them?
CC: no, it’s all completely confidential
Me: Ok thnx – is it ok to give my phone number to a new friend I meet on the Trevor website cuz I need friends who understand me
CC: I would just use the website to communicate at first, until you get to know someone better and can be sure you can trust them.
Me: And what’s a good way to know that I trust them? Like is 2 weeks enough time to build trust?
CC: That’s something you should talk to your sister about, she understands the situation better and is familiar with the site.
Me: Ok My sister goes out late at night cuz my mom works graveyard shift and she makes me promise not to tell. She says she’s meeting her mew furry friends and that someday I should join her.. they call themselves the Ally cats. It sounds fun but she’s tired and cranky all the time and I’m not sure if I shud go
CC: I don’t think you should be going out secretly at your age.
Me: Shud I tell my mom about the alley cats? My sisters not that much older than me. My mom works a lot and sleeps during the day so she trusts us cuz our grades are not bad.
CC: I would be concerned about your sister going out late alone, wo your Mom knowing.
Me: She looks a lot older than she is – but maybe I’ll tell my mom cuz your advice is good. Thnx by by
CC: Thank you for texting. Please remember our 24-7 crisis line phone number is 1-877-727-4747
Me: To call and talk to someone any hour of the day? About anything??
CC: No, this is for when you’re in a crisis. You can talk to Trevor Space whenever you like about anything, and you may also try Teenline.org
Me: Ok thnx
CC: Bye
May 3, 2022
Teen Crisis Text line
Text TEEN to 839-863 between hours of 6pm-9pm… (I think this is Teens counseling Teens)
Me at 6:01 – TEEN
Crisis Counselor at 8:13pm –
Welcome to Teen Line! We ONLY answer txts received between 6-9 PM CA time so plz txt back then. If you need help now, plz call 800-273-8255 or txt VOICE to 20121
Due to heavy volume, we prioritize new texters. If you have txted recently, plz follow up on your referrals or visit our message boards teenlineon-line.org/board
Teen Line may use anonymous content from your text to help improve support for you and others who text in.
Hi so sorry for the delay! Our texting platform was down. My name is Noelle, what’s your name?
Are you there?
ME: Yvonne Yes
CC: hi Yvonne! Do you mind if I ask you a few questions before we start?
Me: ok
CC: perfect! What’s your age/grade/school/zipcode and how did you hear about teen line?
Me: I herd about it thru a friend But she said I could be aninimus
CC: oh I see. Do you mind must telling me your age?
Me: I’m scared about puberty and the change of life cuz I don’t know what gender I should choose it’s a really big decision and it makes me anxious and I’m scared to choose the wrong one and I know the clock is ticking so I don’t want to do the wrong thing
CC: yea that makes sense, I mean changes in your body that are new can definitely seem scary. You should know that you don’t have to choose a gender! Gender identity is a spectrum, and there’s no such thing as a “wrong one” however you feel right now can definitely change overtime!
Me: But I read a book that there’s a whole bunch and my feelings change so one day I think I’m both genders and another day I feel I’m no gender and the next week I think im two spirit. So I guess my spectrum is spread out.
CC: that makes sense! You should feel no pressure to have to choose one gender, like you had mentioned, your spectrum is spread out, and that’s ok!
Me: I think I might be four spirit. Can I do that? With four names and four pronouns
CC: I mean I don’t see why not, you should do whatever feels right for you!
Me: Cool! Should I go on puberty blockers so I don’t turn into the wrong gender?
CC: That’s a conversation that you need to have with a doctor, but I can certainly give you some resources about gender identity if you think that’d help!
Me: Yes please – but I shouldn’t bring this up to my parents cuz they don’t understand right?
CC: why do you think they wouldn’t understand? Have you tried talking to them about this?
Me: They’re Catholic
CC: oh I see. Do you think there’s anybody else in your life you could talk to about this? Perhaps a friend trusted family member, or school counselor?
Me: Maybe you but I gotta go now cuz my mom is coming… bye!!
CC: im just going to include some resources for you that you can look through later when you have time.
https://au.reachout.com/articles/everything-you-need-to-know-about-gender
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/gender-identity
http://www.scarleteen.com/trans_summer_school_whats_the_deal_with_gender
trevor project phone number: Trevor Lifeline: Call (866) 488 7386, available 24/7, Text TREVOR to 1 (202) 304 1200, available Thurs & Fri 1pm - 5pm PT
Once again these are NATIONAL CHAT spaces and mental health crisis lines, which ALL recommend the Trevor Project for minors questioning their gender or sexuality.
I have turned all of this evidence into Mainstream Journalists (Washington Post, EdSource, and others) but they have not informed the public about it. Conservative Outlets have though, such as Epoch Times and Daily Signal.
I have turned it into the County Superintendent, my district's superintendent and board members, but though they say they value family engagement and communication, parents have never been told.
I have turned it into the Police, the District Attorney's Office, but never received a case number after requesting one in writing. I have turned it into Homeland Security (indirectly), but nothing was done. So, I'm taking it to the people because PARENTS deserve to know what is going on behind their backs. In fact, schools are graded on parent communication and a failure to communicate with parents can stifle their funding based on the Local Control Funding Formula https://www.cde.ca.gov/eo/in/lcff1sys-pri3res.asp and based on the Family Engagement Framework that most states have. https://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/pf/pf/documents/famengageframeenglish.pdf
Parents must demand their rights.
Written by: Brenda Lebsack